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Posted 26 January 2008 - 02:04 PM

I was delighted to read Sir Peter Hall's comments about mumblers. I visit the theatre frequently and have sat through productions at just about every theatre at some time or another. (I had begun to wonder if early senility was setting in :a bit like having to visit the ladies loo even when I do't need to ~ because there is invariably a massive queue at interval time) But back to mumbling... there is so much of it and I think it is the scourge of those actors today who do not do enough acting in the theatre. Directors pay attention you cannot miss this in rehearsals surely ? don't forget you have heard the lines a thousand time we poor audiences are hoping to hear it the FIRST time. At ticket prices these days I cannot afford to see the play a second time in the hope I may hear what I missed ! blink.gif
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Posted 26 January 2008 - 06:18 PM

QUOTE(doyley @ Jan 26 2008, 02:04 PM) View Post
I was delighted to read Sir Peter Hall's comments about mumblers. I visit the theatre frequently and have sat through productions at just about every theatre at some time or another. (I had begun to wonder if early senility was setting in :a bit like having to visit the ladies loo even when I do't need to ~ because there is invariably a massive queue at interval time) But back to mumbling... there is so much of it and I think it is the scourge of those actors today who do not do enough acting in the theatre. Directors pay attention you cannot miss this in rehearsals surely ? don't forget you have heard the lines a thousand time we poor audiences are hoping to hear it the FIRST time. At ticket prices these days I cannot afford to see the play a second time in the hope I may hear what I missed ! blink.gif

Actors generally don't use full voice in rehearsals, even dress rehearsals for plays. Musicals are slightly different. But the point is directors won't know how an actor intends to use his/her voice until the first performance in front of an audience and then it might be too late for remedial action, particularly if the actor that is too quiet is a highly-paid tv name. I suspect that Peter Hall is getting full volume from the fantastic Michelle Dockery in Pygmalion.
Ooh, that Bernadette Shaw - what a chatterbox!
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Posted 26 January 2008 - 06:51 PM

QUOTE(Orchestrator @ Jan 26 2008, 06:18 PM) View Post
Actors generally don't use full voice in rehearsals, even dress rehearsals for plays. Musicals are slightly different. But the point is directors won't know how an actor intends to use his/her voice until the first performance in front of an audience and then it might be too late for remedial action, particularly if the actor that is too quiet is a highly-paid tv name. I suspect that Peter Hall is getting full volume from the fantastic Michelle Dockery in Pygmalion.



Thankyou for your reply but I must disagree. Being a trained and working actress myself I have had experience of differing modes of directing and to leave the discovery of how an actor or actress is going to use his or her voice on the performance night is enough to send shivers down the spines of voice coaches fellow actors and the poor unsuspecting audiences in theatres everywhere (with or without poor acoustics)

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 06:55 PM

QUOTE(Orchestrator @ Jan 26 2008, 06:18 PM) View Post
Actors generally don't use full voice in rehearsals, even dress rehearsals for plays. Musicals are slightly different. But the point is directors won't know how an actor intends to use his/her voice until the first performance in front of an audience and then it might be too late for remedial action, particularly if the actor that is too quiet is a highly-paid tv name.


I cannot believe that is the case at all. unsure.gif
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Posted 26 January 2008 - 09:30 PM

QUOTE(Legend @ Jan 26 2008, 06:55 PM) View Post
I cannot believe that is the case at all. unsure.gif

OK, substitute "the famous actors that I have worked with" for "actors".
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Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:38 PM

An actor trains, preferably for three years (not these silly one year courses) so that they know how to use their voices and manage all spaces!! There is simply no need for actors to mumble and on the most part is laziness. I am an actor and would never dare short change an audience- i leave that to the ghastly Katie Mitchell. The responsibility falls on the actor, we are the ones who step onto the stage. Do your excercises, keep the tool trained and communicate to the audience not to the ego!!
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Posted 29 January 2008 - 01:03 PM

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OK, substitute "the famous actors that I have worked with" for "actors".



And please can you list their names as well. tongue.gif
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Posted 29 January 2008 - 09:11 PM

QUOTE(Legend @ Jan 29 2008, 01:03 PM) View Post
And please can you list their names as well. tongue.gif

You wouldn't believe me if I told you ohmy.gif

Don't misunderstand about the volume thing; the famous actors I'm talking about always produce the goods in front of an audience but with some of them it's a big surprise after the rehearsals! Although the one actor who didn't project beyond the footlights (in a musical with radio mic) had been a major star on TV for a good 20 years before going back to the stage.
Ooh, that Bernadette Shaw - what a chatterbox!
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Posted 30 January 2008 - 08:12 AM

QUOTE(Orchestrator @ Jan 29 2008, 09:11 PM) View Post
You wouldn't believe me if I told you ohmy.gif

Don't misunderstand about the volume thing;


Okay, I won't doubt you but I was just being nosey. tongue.gif
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