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Reich

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#243253 Seussical!

Posted Kristian on 31 October 2012 - 06:59 PM

View Postfreckles, on 31 October 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

Maybe we should all band together!

Because that wouldn't look even weirder. We'd probably find ourselves dragged into some sort of enquiry.


#243192 Damned By Despair

Posted Lynette on 31 October 2012 - 12:34 PM

Perhaps if they keep cutting it, it will become a Beckett like yawn of ten seconds.


#241265 Hampstead Season Spring 2013

Posted xanderl on 17 October 2012 - 10:59 AM

If only Julian Assange was on the mailing list, we'd know by now

Crazy marketing strategy - as mentioned earlier, announce the shows and they might get some people to join for priority booking!


#240669 Almeida After Attenborough

Posted armadillo on 12 October 2012 - 11:46 AM

Since I'm a Sarf Londoner I almost never veture that far North. So Bijan Sheibani would be great as it would mean I'd never have to suffer another of his turkeys at the National :lol:


#240341 National Theatre Redevelopment Has Started

Posted xanderl on 10 October 2012 - 06:45 AM

I guess this means the St James only has another few months to capitalise on being "London's Newest Theatre" :)


#239107 Jesus Christ Superstar

Posted Honoured Guest on 30 September 2012 - 09:19 PM

Any protesters will have time to attend Evensong beforehand.


#238993 Biggest Musical Theatre Flops Ever ?!

Posted Matthew Winn on 30 September 2012 - 06:06 AM

View PostJamiem, on 29 September 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

"an uninteresting thread"  not to us, in America courtesy of 'variety' this information is published and people relish it and learn from it

So you think a thread title of "Biggest Musical Theatre Flops Ever" should be interpreted as "Let's list every show that ended up losing £0.01 or more"?

For example, I can't see how anyone could claim that Avenue Q was one of the biggest flops ever. I don't know whether it eventually failed to recoup - if it did then its break-even point must have been at least 80% because once they'd cut their prices it was sometimes difficult to get tickets. But it was a critical success, it ran for several years so it must have been covering its running costs for almost all of that time, and it proved popular enough with the public that it was worth someone else taking it out on tour when the West End production closed. None of those things say "biggest flop" to me.

To illustrate "biggest flops" I'd offer...

Behind the Iron Mask
People flocked to see it in their tens. They flocked to escape in numbers nearly as great. "Unwatchable shit" would have made a comparatively positive review. Nobody had anything good to say about it, with the possible exception of "We're finally out of the theatre. Good." It was astonishing that it ever made it to the stage, and the most baffling thing about it is that at no point prior to the opening night did anyone take the creator of the show to one side and say "Are you insane? Have you actually watched this rubbish?"

The Lord of the Rings
Hugely expensive and heralded with claims along the lines of "All you other shows might as well pack up now because the theatre revolution is coming", it failed to capture most of the audience and only occasionally pulled in enough people to cover its daily running cost. A cheaper, less ambitious production might well have survived because there was nothing fundamentally wrong with it apart from its failure to tell its story, but the production team appeared to think that the more money they threw at it and the more over the top the spectacle became the more certain they were to achieve success. It turns out you can't buy popularity that way.

That's what I think is meant by "biggest flop".


#238912 Sunset Blvd Uk Tour?

Posted Laughingmonsta on 29 September 2012 - 12:40 PM

I heard that Lloyd-Webber wants to see it like he has always want...in an ill conceived arena tour in front of 20,000 people with really bad sound quality...I heard he was going to cast the show via local papers classified ads, and that the set would be an olympic sized swimming pool and the cast would be in the pool in synchronised swimming routines! - but that's just what I heard *Whistles Sarcastically*

On a real note - I enjoyed CRH's revival and could see it touring to middle scale venues like Liverpool Playhouse, WYP etc, but have a feeling as noted above ALW only wants get rich quick cash cows, so have a feeling this won't happen!


#238446 West End...

Posted ABowlerHat on 26 September 2012 - 11:22 AM

In The Heights!

Revivals on any Sondheim would be good. I'd specifically love to see Pacific Overtures at the National.


#238036 Jesus Christ Superstar

Posted DanielWhit on 23 September 2012 - 03:13 PM

View PostReich, on 23 September 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

Technically it was mess with missed mic cues, the show stopping towards the end (although we did get an apology this time) i wouln't be suprised if lighting cues were also missed. the camera work was shoddy, it was quite rare to get a complete faceshot most of the time the forehead was missing. During the curtain all we got was crotch shots - what a cock up

That's better than what we got on Friday - no crotch shots or indeed any shots whatsoever during the curtain call.


#238029 Jesus Christ Superstar

Posted bickypeg on 23 September 2012 - 02:02 PM

Love it!


#237617 Dress Circle (Londons Musical Theatre Shop) Closing For Good August 15Th

Posted freckles on 20 September 2012 - 08:01 AM

I thought Zippy was making a valid point here. that's all.


#237473 Rsc 2013 Season

Posted armadillo on 18 September 2012 - 07:10 PM

I got all excited at the mention of Candide and then I found it's some boring straight version without songs *sadface*


#236235 Victor Victoria @ Southwark Playhouse

Posted Front Row Dress on 08 September 2012 - 01:28 PM

View Postfreckles, on 08 September 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

From the same creatives as Mack & Mabel which was my favourite thing this year, so looking forward to this.

There are also some "cabaret seats" at tables, maybe more comfy...??!

But they are £27.50, if you book now tickets are only £10, I'll save the £17.50 and buy a cushion :)