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[musicalfan93]

Why is it anyone who posts on here is accused of not having a life, not having valid opinions & is basically seen as some kind of low sub-species? I've seen this forum talked about by performers & fans alike, some simply referring to posters on this discussion board as being losers who know nothing. I don't post on here much, but I'm getting a little fed up of seeing attacks made at people discussing their opinions on a discussion board. FYI some people are in the know. Also, what is with the fat insults? What on earth is that achieving?

[Zippy]

She/he/it's a troll so not worth wasting time on. Ignore it, I'm sure it's well used to that!

[poster J]

I don't know how I missed the last few pages of this thread, but I've only just seen this.  I too didn't like Sofia's Christine (but then what do I know, I quite like the Phantom film and apparently that's unthinkable), and find it very strange that she thinks reacting so wildly on twitter to one single comment will do anyone any good at all.  I can see in a way why she could have thought the tweet was not just about her performance if she took it in isolation, but even if it was about more than performance, her reaction does not make her take the high road at all, but instead look rather immature in my opinion.  Those kind of disputes can and should be settled in private.

OueenBitch, on 11 June 2012 - 10:25 PM, said:

I have read through the garbage you all write. Who do you think you are? What right do you have to sit in judgement of professional performers?

Who are you register just to insult people on here?  You seem to come demanding that every performer in the WE is respected, yet fail to show any kind of ordinary human decency and respect to people here.  Don't ask for what you seem unable to give.

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You alll seem to be totally clueless on what it takes to get up on Stage and perform 8 nights a week....maybe try it one day. Get your fat arses off the sofa and do something worth while.

Some of us do know, even if at amateur level.  I assume you're trolling, but if you're not, you might want to realise that people are not clones, are not all the same and therefore do not equate to your rude sweeping generalisations.

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Real people with feelings get up on stage night after night. They give their all.

I give my all at many things, it doesn't mean I'm good at them.  It doesn't mean people can't think I'm not good at something, or that I can't take someone telling me that the essay I wrote last week or the project I completed the week before that was rubbish.  It's subjective, it's called an opinion, it's perfectly valid not to like someone and I for one think no performer should be immune to criticism as long as it's polite, which frankly every post other than yours has been.  Anything written can be misunderstood, the maturity comes in accepting clarification of intention and moving on, not in petty insults and bullying.

[Cactus]

Oh good heavens. So shall we just get rid of all critics anywhere?! A paying customer has any right to voice their opinion on what they got for their money and not just sit there and mindlessly smile and clap through each and every performance. If we can't voice negative opinions because we can't sing a top C ourselves we also can't voice any praise anymore. And just like I'm no chef but can still taste if the rice was too salty or am no writer but can still tell when someone has to rely on a deus ex machina, I can say what I thought of a theatre performance.

[MS1995]

Out of interest, who else thinks that this 'queen bitch' is probably sofia?

[bickypeg]

I don't think the Queen Bitch comments should have been deleted despite the swearing.It is a fine example of what several of us have had to contend with.And a horrible warning against becoming a fan whose obsession is such that they have become insane.

[ldntheatregoer]

I'll never understand the 'who are the audience to judge the performers and their performances' line that seems to get brought out now and then. The answer is in there, they are the AUDIENCE. They paid their money and are entitled to think what they like. Should they ideally express those opinions without bashing or getting personal? Yes.

No, most of us watching couldn't 'do what they do', which is why we pay money to watch other people who are being paid to do it. Both arguments make absolutely no sense, as Cactus rightly points out, when applied to any walk of life.

[jaqs]

Most actors couldnt do what many of us do for jobs, and they complain and bitch and moan when things go wrong, whether they pay for something or not, and have no clue as to the effort that goes in.
And a few message boards, twitter comments and stage door moments are far more avoidable than many jobs interactions with their customer base. And if most of us swore at our customer base, told them to get a life and find a hobby we'd no longer be employed.

But of course actors are far more important and fragile than us normal bods who also work hard for a living

And to phantom, which cheaper seats have the best view?

[SHk]

Morning. It seems that Sofiagate is indeed still alive and kicking. And even harder in some parts of Twitterland. I've been imformed that some Twitteres are trying to turn this into "abuse of actors on internet by punters" issue. I thought I was the who was  being abused by Sofia & Co. and I am not even angry as the whole thing is too silly.

As for respect for performers. Yes I have plenty and plenty of that for those who have earned it. Being an actor doesn't automatically earn you a respect. Because, strictly and technically speaking, actors act because they want to, and not because they are doing us a favrour.

There are performances that make you feel that it is such a privilege just to be there to witness them. Those nights will be remembered and treasured by us theatre-lovers for the rest of our lives. Failing that, plenty of perfs are very enjoyable and pleasant, and we admire all the talented people who worked so hard to make it possible.

Calling expressing our opinions "abuse of actors" just shows the lack of understanding what performing arts are about.

As for POTO, the end seats of Dress Circle or Upper Circle  front row are not bad. How much are they now?

[poster J]

SHk, on 12 June 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

As for POTO, the end seats of Dress Circle or Upper Circle  front row are not bad. How much are they now?

Upper Circle was £45 when I went last year, not sure if the ends count as cheaper restricted view or not though.  Frankly the whole Upper Circle should be priced lower than that, the view is awful...